Scalp tension from the occipitalis muscle is theorized to contribute to hair loss, but most believe DHT and genetics are the main causes. Treatments like finasteride and minoxidil are considered more effective than addressing scalp tension.
A 39 year old female who has been taking finasteride for 1.5 months and is experiencing side effects such as muscle and butt shrinkage, and weight loss despite still having tight clothing. The user is seeking advice from those with knowledge of bodybuilding and hormones to help figure out the issue.
The conversation discusses the tension theory of baldness, suggesting that over-developed masseter muscles may harm hair follicles. Botox injections to relax these muscles reportedly led to an 18% increase in hair count in men with AGA.
Training scalp muscles to absorb more DHT is suggested as a hair loss solution, but users debate its effectiveness compared to medications like dutasteride and finasteride. Concerns about side effects of DHT blockers, such as reduced libido, are discussed, with some advocating for natural remedies like scalp massages and healthy living.
A 30-year-old woman with androgenetic alopecia is considering bicalutamide to slow hair loss but is concerned about its impact on muscle growth due to its anti-androgen effects. Alternatives suggested include dutasteride, spironolactone, RU58841, and minoxidil, with concerns about bicalutamide's side effects.
Using a muscle scraper on the scalp may help with hair regrowth by loosening the scalp and increasing blood flow. The user also uses topical finasteride and minoxidil daily, which could contribute to hair growth.
Finasteride does not significantly affect muscle gains and can slightly increase testosterone levels. Creatine is generally considered safe to use with finasteride, though some believe it may increase DHT levels, potentially affecting hair loss.
Creatine was beneficial for muscles and joints but caused hair loss. The user seeks an alternative supplement that adds water weight to muscles without affecting hair.
Scalp Botox may help hair loss by relaxing muscles and increasing blood flow, potentially benefiting conditions other than androgenetic alopecia. DHT affects hair follicles differently, causing tension and hair loss in some areas but not others.
Follistatin, known for inhibiting myostatin and promoting muscle growth in mice, is being discussed as a potential treatment for hair loss. Specific treatments mentioned include Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.
Botox may help with hair loss by reducing muscle tension and inflammation, potentially lowering DHT levels. Regular sessions might be needed, and it could also help with migraines.
MK-677 (Ibutamoren) helped reduce hair shedding and improved muscle growth for the user. The user advises caution, noting increased appetite and potential weight gain without exercise.
The user looks good bald and could enhance their appearance by gaining muscle and growing facial hair. Some suggest trying minoxidil and finasteride, while others recommend embracing baldness and focusing on confidence.
The user shared their experience with dutasteride for hair loss prevention, noting side effects like muscle weakness and brain fog, and observed increased testosterone levels. They recommend starting with a low dose and adjusting based on individual needs and blood work results.
Dutasteride effectively stops hair loss but can cause side effects like sexual dysfunction, muscle mass changes, and testicle shrinkage. Adjusting the dosage may help manage these side effects, but long-term health effects remain a concern.
Stopping antihistamines may resolve neurological side effects when using finasteride. Users experienced muscle aches, headaches, and lethargy when combining the two.
The user is considering stopping finasteride due to depression, anxiety, and difficulty building muscle, despite its effectiveness in stopping hair loss. Suggestions include reducing the dose, switching to topical solutions, or consulting a doctor for alternatives like dutasteride or RU58841.
The conversation humorously discusses inducing goosebumps to potentially reverse hair loss, with mentions of using cold therapy and muscle exercises. It also references other unconventional ideas like removing a testicle to lower DHT.
Hair loss treatments include finasteride, minoxidil, and scalp exercises. Opinions vary on the effectiveness, with some attributing hair loss to muscle tension and inflammation, while others focus on genetics and DHT.
Cbum's hair transplant is criticized for looking unnatural and not blending well, with some suggesting better results were expected given his resources. Discussions also cover the effects of steroids and finasteride on hair loss and muscle growth.
A long-term finasteride user experienced side effects like sexual dysfunction, dry eyes, muscle weakness, and brain fog, which improved when they stopped the medication. They decided to stop finasteride again, questioning if maintaining hair was worth the negative impact on their well-being.
Dutasteride may inhibit androgen receptors in addition to reducing DHT, potentially explaining its effectiveness over finasteride for hair loss. Concerns about its impact on muscle growth are debated, with some suggesting no significant effects.
The user believes neck tension and poor posture contribute to hair loss, noticing improvements with yoga and muscle relaxation. Replies suggest androgenic alopecia as the cause and recommend exercises.
A 30-year-old male has been on finasteride/dutasteride for 3 years, with stable but still receding hairline, and blood tests showing high total testosterone but normal DHT and free testosterone levels. Despite challenges in gaining muscle, he maintains a good physique with a consistent lifting routine and recently improved results with creatine.
A user experienced hair regrowth after 3 months using finasteride, both topical and oral minoxidil, 0.5mm microneedling daily, and 300mg testosterone. They reported noticeable muscle gains and no side effects while being on testosterone replacement therapy.
The conversation discusses using treatments like dutasteride, minoxidil, spironolactone, and estradiol for hair regrowth while maintaining muscle mass. Concerns include potential side effects like gynecomastia and muscle loss, with suggestions to balance hormone levels carefully.
The conversation humorously discusses hair loss treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, and Dutasteride, and their effects on hair and muscle gains. Users debate effectiveness and side effects, mixing scientific approaches with jokes.
A user experienced initial side effects from finasteride, including erectile dysfunction and emotional changes, but later noticed increased muscle mass and assertiveness. Hormonal tests showed elevated estrogen and prolactin levels, which slightly decreased over time; the user plans lifestyle changes to see if they help.