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Probiotics like L. reuteri ATCC PTA 6475 and B. longum BB536 may improve hair growth and density by reducing inflammation and reversing DHT damage. The user is trialing these probiotics personally, ordering them from the U.S. to Canada, and plans to continue if no adverse effects occur.

Topical finasteride may have higher systemic absorption and lower efficacy when using a Propylene Glycol/Ethanol formulation compared to the hydroxypropyl chitosan (HPCH) formulation. The safety profile of topical finasteride relies heavily on the HPCH formulation, and using standard solutions might lead to different pharmacokinetics.

Finasteride and Dutasteride will remain accessible in the EU despite objections from France and Belgium. Users discuss the ease of obtaining these medications in different countries and express relief and support for the EU's decision.

Creatine might speed up hair loss in those prone to male pattern baldness, possibly due to increased DHT levels. Some users experience no issues when using creatine with treatments like finasteride, minoxidil, or dutasteride.

A user discovered they have naturally low DHT levels and is concerned about taking finasteride, which could further lower these levels. They are seeking advice on whether to proceed with the treatment given their hormone levels are within the normal range.

The conversation discusses using cyproterone temporarily to reverse hair loss, followed by finasteride to maintain regrowth. Concerns about cyproterone's side effects, such as lowering testosterone and potential health risks, are raised, with alternatives like spironolactone suggested for androgen-related issues.

RU58841 is absorbed systemically in humans, contradicting claims it stays local, but no harm is proven. Alternatives like CB-03-01 or KX-826, especially with finasteride, are suggested for safety.

Microneedling before applying topical finasteride or dutasteride may enhance their effectiveness by increasing local absorption in the scalp, despite concerns about systemic absorption. Users discuss combining this method with oral treatments and minoxidil, noting potential benefits and side effects.

A company is developing a topical dutasteride that targets hair follicles without significantly affecting systemic DHT levels, with trials underway to measure its effectiveness. Users discuss the potential benefits and skepticism around the formulation compared to existing treatments.

He Shou Wu (Fo Ti) extract was found to prolong the hair growth phase, inhibit 5-alpha-reductase (like finasteride), reduce androgen receptors, and increase growth factors, potentially outperforming minoxidil in recovering hair follicle size after DHT exposure. Two compounds, emodin and TSG, are identified as responsible for these effects and warrant further investigation.

PP405 shows initial promise for treating androgenetic alopecia, with safety confirmed in early trials, but skepticism remains due to limited data. Further trials are needed to determine its true efficacy and potential market impact.

Finasteride and Dutasteride do not cause depression or "Post Finasteride Syndrome," with concerns often linked to the nocebo effect and preexisting mental health issues. The EU is unlikely to ban these drugs, but access may become more restricted due to ongoing debates.

The user has been experiencing prolonged hair shedding despite using Dutasteride, Minoxidil, and topical Finasteride, with blood tests showing high free testosterone and low SHBG. Suggestions include adjusting Minoxidil dosage, considering topical anti-androgens like RU58841, and addressing metabolic factors to increase SHBG.

The user has high free testosterone and is still experiencing hair loss despite taking dutasteride and oral minoxidil for over three years. They are considering adding a topical anti-androgen like RU58841.

The conversation discusses doubts about the effectiveness of topical finasteride for hair loss, suggesting that DHT could be produced elsewhere in the body and affect the scalp. It proposes that androgen receptor antagonists like spironolactone and clascoterone might be more effective as they could prevent this potential bypass mechanism.

A peptide-based delivery system for finasteride shows promise in reducing systemic side effects while maintaining hair growth effectiveness. Combining this with other treatments like minoxidil and RU58841 could enhance results with lower systemic absorption.

The conversation discusses experiences with finasteride for hair loss, particularly in relation to pre-existing gynecomastia. The original poster used finasteride but stopped after finding no change in gynecomastia size, and others shared similar concerns and experiences.

A 23-year-old male has been using finasteride and topical minoxidil for 14 months with slight improvement, but recent shedding led him to switch to a new minoxidil formulation without success. He is considering using topical RU58841 or dutasteride to better address scalp DHT, as his bloodwork shows high total testosterone and mid-range DHT levels.

Switching from finasteride to dutasteride can worsen hair loss for some men due to increased testosterone levels. Topical treatments like RU58841 and Pyrilutamide are suggested to counteract these effects, but individual responses vary.

The conversation discusses whether finasteride's reduction of DHT and increase in scalp testosterone contribute to hair follicle miniaturization. Some participants argue testosterone does not cause miniaturization, while others suggest that even with reduced DHT, other androgens like testosterone may still contribute to hair loss.

The user reported high testosterone and estradiol levels within range, but unexpectedly high DHT levels after using finasteride and dutasteride for hair loss. Another person suggested the dutasteride might be fake or a bad batch and recommended using the branded Avodart.

The conversation discusses using Tribulus Terrestris and Zinc to boost libido while on finasteride, with some users reporting success in increasing libido despite no testosterone boost. The original poster also considers reducing finasteride dosage and using Cialis for libido and bodybuilding purposes.

Creatine may not significantly boost libido despite potentially raising DHT levels. Finasteride reduces DHT and may affect libido, but individual experiences vary.

Maximum serum DHT suppression for finasteride occurs at 8 hours, while for dutasteride, it occurs within 1 to 2 weeks with daily dosing. Dutasteride mesotherapy will be followed by blood tests to check serum DHT changes.

The conversation discusses Kintor's initiation of a new Phase 3 trial to assess the long-term safety of Pyrilutamide (KX-826) for hair loss, which will last 52 weeks. Specific treatments mentioned include Pyrilutamide.

GT20029 is discussed as a potential treatment for androgenetic hair loss by targeting androgen receptors, unlike finasteride which reduces DHT broadly. Concerns include its effectiveness, genetic variations in androgen receptors, and availability, with some skepticism about its potential as a true alternative.

Finasteride users report reduced libido and increased hair shedding initially, but some see these as temporary or manageable side effects. Vitamin E and D-3 supplements are discussed as potential aids for libido and mood.

The user convinced their trichologist to prescribe topical finasteride after using topical estradiol and progesterone for hair maintenance. They also discussed the potential impact of "nofap" on hair loss, noting that abstaining for about four months seemed to reduce shedding.

The user has been using finasteride since November 2023, which improved their hair and confidence, and they plan to switch to dutasteride and get a hair transplant. They noticed hair thickening after 3-4 months on finasteride and are considering oral dutasteride and minoxidil for further improvement.

A 17-year-old is using oral dutasteride, finasteride, and topical minoxidil for hair loss, with plans to increase dutasteride and consider surgery. They report significant regrowth but are worried about side effects and the effects of blocking DHT at a young age.