Comments on 'Maternal–Fetal Safety Evaluation of an Aqueous Extract of Casearia Sylvestris Leaves in Rats' (Nagaoka et al., 2023)

The conversation discusses the safety study of PP405, emphasizing that early trials focus on safety rather than efficacy, and that any efficacy data from such a short study should be viewed skeptically. It also highlights that the information released is primarily for securing funding, and that meaningful efficacy results are expected in later phases.

The conversation discusses a botanically derived treatment for androgenetic alopecia using ingredients like saw palmetto, green tea, and evening primrose, showing impressive results over 270 days. Concerns include the study's uncontrolled nature and potential product motivation, with suggestions to enhance absorption through derma rolling.

A peptide from Japanese water chestnut fruit may help with hair loss by suppressing DHT's effect on hair follicle cell death, potentially serving as a finasteride alternative. The treatment's effectiveness and safety in humans remain uncertain.

The conversation is about a user experiencing hair shedding after using a brand of RU58841, questioning its effectiveness and safety. Concerns are raised about RU58841 being an abandoned research chemical and the use of heavy oils like castor and argan oil potentially affecting absorption.

A user is interested in Absci's AI-driven antibody platform, ABS-201, for treating androgenetic alopecia, which shows promising preclinical results and potential for hair regrowth and pigmentation restoration. However, concerns are raised about the drug's development timeline and its advantages compared to existing treatments.

PP405's phase 2a trial results were presented, focusing on safety and pharmacokinetics, with a future meeting planned to share the full dataset. The trial includes a randomized controlled portion and an open-label extension, with no indication of phase 2B completion.