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The conclusion of the conversation is that the user, PirateBeastBaby, had good results with microneedling for hair loss after using oral finasteride and topical minoxidil 20 years ago. They believe that microneedling was the gamechanger for their hair growth.

Topical Dutasteride may halt hair loss and effectively treat androgenic alopecia. Combining low-dose oral Dutasteride with topical application could maximize regrowth and minimize side effects.

Gym and creatine can cause hair loss by increasing testosterone and androgenic activity. DHT blockers may help some, while others need androgen suppression with topical AA like RU or Pyri.

The impact of creatine on DHT levels, and whether it could cause accelerated male pattern baldness (MPB). The user taking a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor found that their DHT levels actually reduced despite taking creatine for nine weeks. Replies suggested looking into testosterone levels as well and debating the safety of creatine use in relation to MPB.

The post and conversation are about the user's high testosterone levels and their worsening hair loss despite trying various treatments. They are considering using low doses of anti-androgens to lower their testosterone levels as a potential solution.

User experienced 100% testosterone increase after using Finasteride and Dutasteride for hair loss. Some users discuss potential side effects and reasons for the increase.

Creatine may increase scalp DHT without affecting serum DHT, potentially speeding up male pattern baldness (MPB) for those genetically prone. Treatments mentioned include Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.

The conversation discusses whether creatine causes hair loss for those using finasteride or dutasteride, with some suggesting creatine might increase DHT or upregulate androgen receptors, potentially leading to hair loss. Others argue the evidence is not conclusive, citing limited studies and personal anecdotes, with some avoiding creatine as a precaution.

Experimenting with the effects of creatine and finasteride on DHT levels, as well as a discussion regarding the potential link between creatine supplementation and hair loss.

Creatine may increase DHT levels, potentially causing symptoms like acne, oily hair, and hair shedding. Users report mixed experiences, with some avoiding creatine due to hair loss concerns and others seeing no impact.

Dutasteride raises scalp testosterone by 99%, which may not be ideal for those sensitive to all androgens. Some argue finasteride's balancing act might be better, while others believe dutasteride is superior for hair regrowth.

The conversation discusses the use of creatine while on finasteride and/or dutasteride for hair loss. Opinions vary, with some users reporting no issues and others experiencing accelerated hair loss, suggesting effects are individual.

A 21-year-old male managed to control his hair loss using Nizoral, RU58841, and finasteride, but experienced increased scalp itchiness after starting creatine, which subsided upon stopping creatine. Users shared mixed experiences on whether creatine affects hair loss, with some reporting negative effects and others seeing no change or defending its benefits.

User experienced hair loss after taking creatine with finasteride for 8 years. Others shared similar experiences, but some suggested it could be a minoxidil shed.

A user experienced a significant drop in testosterone levels after taking finasteride, leading to side effects like low libido and muscle mass loss. Despite its effectiveness for hair, the user decided to stop finasteride due to its impact on hormones, preferring to be bald.

Finasteride may decrease free testosterone by increasing SHBG, potentially causing side effects like reduced libido and hormonal changes. Some find it effective for hair loss, while others experience negative effects.

The user shared their bloodwork results showing DHT at 17 ng/dl and testosterone at 287 ng/dl, with a slight Vitamin D deficiency. They are seeking opinions on these levels and have an upcoming dermatologist appointment.

A user reported a 50% increase in testosterone after 18 months of taking dutasteride for hair loss. The conversation includes skepticism about the reliability of single testosterone tests and questions about estrogen levels.

A user on finasteride for 8 months shared bloodwork results showing increased testosterone and estradiol levels, with concerns about high LH. Responses advised monitoring for symptoms but noted levels are within reference ranges.

A user's plan to use Zix and topical finasteride (5AR inhibitors) for hair loss, followed by blood testing before/after. The user has suggested creating a fund to cover part of the cost of their blood tests. Replies to their post discuss the effectiveness of the treatments.

Topical spironolactone 5% is being discussed for its effectiveness in treating hair loss, specifically receding temples. The user is inquiring if it works similarly to finasteride as a testosterone blocker.

The conversation discusses whether finasteride's reduction of DHT and increase in scalp testosterone contribute to hair follicle miniaturization. Some participants argue testosterone does not cause miniaturization, while others suggest that even with reduced DHT, other androgens like testosterone may still contribute to hair loss.

The user is trying RU58841, oral minoxidil, and dermarolling to combat hair loss caused by increased scalp testosterone after using finasteride and dutasteride. They plan to document their results.

The user experienced significant hair regrowth after 7.5 months on finasteride and 4 months on minoxidil, with some shedding initially but no major side effects. They also achieved body transformation through training and diet, without using creatine or whey protein.

Finasteride's potential side effects, especially sexual dysfunction, are discussed, with emphasis on hormonal balance between testosterone and estradiol. Users share experiences with finasteride, minoxidil, and dutasteride, highlighting the variability in side effects and the influence of mindset and lifestyle.

OP shared a 7-year hair density progress update using Minoxidil, Finasteride, and dermarolling. Creatine use was discussed, with mixed opinions on its impact on hair loss.

A user shared their pre-finasteride lab results, including DHT, estradiol, testosterone, SHBG, prolactin, FSH, and LH levels. Another user responded, cautioning against making unsupported claims about side effects and recovery.

A user shared a success story showing hair regrowth over 10 years, attributing it to quitting creatine and taking 0.5mg finasteride. Some commenters were skeptical about creatine's impact, while others inquired about side effects, and the original poster reported no negative effects from finasteride.

The conversation discusses the potential of long-chain unsaturated fatty acids, like oleic and linoleic acid, as an additional treatment for hair loss, which may inhibit the enzyme responsible for converting testosterone to DHT and promote hair growth. Users humorously suggest using oils topically and discuss other hair loss treatments, but the main focus is on the science behind fatty acids and their role in hair health.

Despite using 5% minoxidil, 0.1% finasteride, and other treatments like microneedling, MK-677, and Cialis, hair loss continues with high testosterone and DHT levels. Considering oral dutasteride but concerned about further increasing testosterone levels.