Maximum serum DHT suppression for finasteride occurs at 8 hours, while for dutasteride, it occurs within 1 to 2 weeks with daily dosing. Dutasteride mesotherapy will be followed by blood tests to check serum DHT changes.
The user lost ground on oral finasteride and plans to switch to topical finasteride/minoxidil and microneedling. They are curious if topical treatments are more effective than oral ones.
The user has been using liposomal topical finasteride since late 2022, progressively increasing the dose, but DHT serum levels remain largely unchanged. Despite using finasteride, minoxidil, microneedling, and ketoconazole, hair condition has neither improved nor worsened.
Creatine may increase scalp DHT without affecting serum DHT, potentially speeding up male pattern baldness (MPB) for those genetically prone. Treatments mentioned include Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.
The effects of smoking cigarettes on DHT levels and its potential effect on hair loss, with some people sharing experiences in relation to their own hair loss. Various treatments for reducing or reversing hair loss were discussed, such as quitting smoking, minoxidil, finasteride and RU58841.
The conversation discusses the fluctuation of testosterone levels in men under 40 and the difference between serum DHT and scalp DHT. It also mentions that DHT levels are higher on Dutasteride than on Finasteride, which is unusual.
Hair loss treatments, specifically, discussing the effectiveness and side effects of finasteride, minoxidil, and RU58841 in various microdoses. It also includes an updated graph which provides information on how different doses affect DHT levels, scalp skin and serum androgen levels, as well as hair count.
Researching and developing an effective local antagonist to block the androgen receptors for hair loss, as opposed to using DHT synthesis inhibitors that lower serum DHT levels. Several treatments such as CosmeRNA and Pyrilutamide are currently in development or undergoing trials.
Dutasteride mesotherapy showed increased hair density and diameter without reducing serum DHT levels in a small study. However, the sample size was too small to make definitive claims about its efficacy.
The conversation discusses using very low dose topical finasteride to achieve specific serum DHT reduction percentages. It concludes that finasteride dosage increases linearly between 5-30% DHT reduction but requires exponential increases for reductions up to 70%.
The conversation discusses the effectiveness of different concentrations and dosages of topical finasteride on scalp and serum DHT levels, comparing it to oral finasteride and noting the side effects seem to be fewer at lower dosages. Participants shared experiences and referenced a chart indicating similar scalp DHT reduction with 0.025% topical finasteride as with 1mg oral finasteride, but with fewer side effects.
The conversation discusses a new liposomal topical finasteride from Hasson and Wong, available in Canada and Italy, soon in the US, costing $40/month. It claims to reduce scalp DHT by 50% without affecting serum DHT, potentially benefiting those who can't tolerate oral finasteride or RU58841.
User discusses tight scalp causing hair loss and suggests treatments like scalp massages, PRP, saw palmetto, and eucapil. They share their experience with saw palmetto and eucapil and consider adding PRP and scalp massages for better results.
The conversation discusses the effects of lowering DHT on hair loss and the importance of monitoring DHT levels during treatment. The user suggests that individual responses to DHT and hair loss treatments vary, and expresses a preference for topical treatments over oral medications due to concerns about systemic DHT reduction.
A 25-year-old male experiencing hair loss and thinning since age 20 is seeking advice on effective DHT inhibitors. He lists various oral and topical treatments, excluding Minoxidil due to adverse effects.
A user increased their dutasteride dosage from 0.5mg to 1mg daily, resulting in a rise in DHT levels from 148 pg/mL to 281 pg/mL, and is considering switching back to finasteride due to continued hair loss. Replies suggest retesting and emphasize the importance of bloodwork before starting treatments.
The conversation is about using natural DHT blockers like saw palmetto, pumpkin seed oil, and stinging nettle extract for hair loss. Saw palmetto is noted to potentially halt mild hair loss.
Despite using 5% minoxidil, 0.1% finasteride, and other treatments like microneedling, MK-677, and Cialis, hair loss continues with high testosterone and DHT levels. Considering oral dutasteride but concerned about further increasing testosterone levels.
The impact of creatine on DHT levels, and whether it could cause accelerated male pattern baldness (MPB). The user taking a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor found that their DHT levels actually reduced despite taking creatine for nine weeks. Replies suggested looking into testosterone levels as well and debating the safety of creatine use in relation to MPB.
A user shared their experience using topical finasteride for 6 months, showing a reduction in DHT levels but no visible improvement in hair loss. They are considering switching to oral finasteride for potentially better results.
The user had high DHT levels after 8 months on dutasteride, questioning the drug's authenticity. They got dutasteride from a legitimate source and will update on progress.
The conversation discusses hair loss treatments like topical finasteride with minoxidil, oral dutasteride, and essential oils. Oral treatments like dutasteride and finasteride are seen as more effective, though some prefer topicals to avoid side effects.
The conversation discusses the effectiveness of various doses of Dutasteride in reducing scalp DHT and its impact on hair count. Users shared personal experiences with hair loss treatments, including Dutasteride, Finasteride, and Minoxidil, with one reporting significant hair loss reduction using a combination of oral Dutasteride and topical Minoxidil and Finasteride.
Treatments for hair loss, including the experiences of topical finasteride and oral dutasteride. It also discusses Pyrilutamide, 0.025% topical concentration, Minoxidil, RU58841, and 1% finasteride gel dosage.
A user's experience with using 5AR inhibitors (Finasteride and Dutasteride) in combination with Minoxidil foam and microneedling, which resulted in substantial improvements to their crown density and hairline, despite high systemic levels of testosterone and dihydrotestosterone.
The user discussed switching from RU58841 with Minoxidil to Finasteride due to cost, noting better physical feelings and hair growth with RU58841. They are considering returning to RU58841 and checking DHT levels after a month.
The conversation discusses the potential for high doses of dutasteride to completely inhibit scalp DHT and speculates whether this could cure baldness when combined with a topical antiandrogen. Specific dosages mentioned are 0.5 mg reducing scalp DHT by 55% and 2.5 mg by about 79%.
A 27-year-old man shared his hormonal panel results after one year of taking finasteride 1mg/day for hair loss, showing his DHT levels nearly doubled. He reported stabilized hair loss with mild side effects that resolved, and he is considering a hair transplant but is concerned about the increased DHT levels and potential treatment options.
The user has been using 5ar inhibitors for 3 years to combat hair loss, starting with Finasteride and then switching to Dutasteride. They also use topical Minoxidil and microneedling as part of their routine, and have seen improvements in their hairline.