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The conversation is about frustration over the delay in phase 2 results for a hair loss treatment called GT20029. One user suspects the treatment may have failed.

Concerns about the long-term safety of VDPHL01, an extended-release minoxidil, due to potential risks similar to Cantu syndrome, were raised, highlighting the lack of monitoring for chronic connective tissue changes. The conversation suggests that while the treatment may improve hair growth, it could lead to issues not detected in short-term trials.

Participants discussed hair loss treatments, specifically Pyrilutamide, with some experiencing side effects like heart palpitations and anxiety. There is uncertainty about the drug's effectiveness, and a new group buy is planned with a different lab due to concerns about purity.

Pelage secured $120 million for PP405, a non-hormonal topical hair loss treatment, sparking debate on its potential as a breakthrough. Concerns about finasteride's side effects persist, with some suggesting alternatives like topical finasteride or dutasteride.

PP405 shows promise in hair loss treatment, but stem cell therapy using adipose-derived stem cells and ATP also successfully reversed androgenetic alopecia in mice. Stem cell therapy is costly, and some doubt the effectiveness of PP405 based on press releases.

The conversation is about interest in watching the Pelage PP405 presentation online, with mentions of hair loss treatments like finasteride. Users express frustration and humor about the topic, with one user noting finasteride caused discomfort.

Peptides like GHK-Cu are discussed for hair regrowth, with mixed results; some users report no regrowth, while others notice thicker hair. Topical application is common, and proper sourcing and mixing are emphasized.

Mixing RU58841 with cetosomal minoxidil is discussed due to scalp irritation from ethanol PG vehicles. A mixture of the two turned bright pink when left to dry.

PP405 is expected to work for hair regrowth by reactivating stem cells in hair follicles, with FDA approval anticipated in 2027-28. Users express both optimism and skepticism about its effectiveness and the lengthy approval process.

2-Deoxy-D-Ribose (2dDR) is likely ineffective for treating hair loss and performs worse than 5% minoxidil. Finasteride and minoxidil are more effective treatments.

The conversation discusses the safety study of PP405, emphasizing that early trials focus on safety rather than efficacy, and that any efficacy data from such a short study should be viewed skeptically. It also highlights that the information released is primarily for securing funding, and that meaningful efficacy results are expected in later phases.

Be cautious when sourcing PP405 or its analogs from third-party suppliers due to potential safety risks and lack of regulatory approval. The conversation highlights concerns about counterfeit products and the absence of reliable testing, making it risky to use such treatments.

The conversation discusses potential hair loss treatments focusing on stimulating IGF-1 at the follicle level using growth-factor cocktails and engineered peptides, such as Acetyl Tetrapeptide-3, Copper Tripeptide-1, Oligopeptide-20, Thymosin-β4, and Palmitoyl Tetrapeptide-7. It suggests that device-assisted delivery methods like microneedling may enhance effectiveness.

Hair follicle stem cells remain in bald individuals, but progenitor cells do not, raising questions about hair regrowth claims by Pelage. PP405 is discussed as a potential treatment, with skepticism about its effectiveness compared to existing treatments like Minoxidil and Finasteride.

The conversation discusses GT20029, a drug in Phase II trials that targets androgen receptors with minimal systemic effects, and TDM-105795, a growth stimulant with a different mechanism than minoxidil that may revive papilla stem cells. Both are potential new treatments for hair loss.

Topical sodium valproate may promote hair growth by inhibiting GSK3β, allowing beta-catenin to proliferate, but it has potential side effects and requires more research. The conversation also mentions skepticism about a product called Vdphlo1, which includes sodium valproate and other ingredients.

The user discusses using dutasteride to stop hair loss and bimatoprost for regrowth. They plan to use VEGF with hydrogels for potentially permanent hair follicle improvement and suggest PRP as an alternative.

A user asked if olive oil can replace propylene glycol or glycerin in topical finasteride preparation. Another user advised against it, suggesting MCT oil instead due to olive oil's potential to worsen dandruff and seborrheic dermatitis.

Topical finasteride may have higher systemic absorption and lower efficacy when using a Propylene Glycol/Ethanol formulation compared to the hydroxypropyl chitosan (HPCH) formulation. The safety profile of topical finasteride relies heavily on the HPCH formulation, and using standard solutions might lead to different pharmacokinetics.

A user is seeking UK-based sources for propylene glycol and ethanol to dilute topical finasteride for hair loss treatment. They currently order from MinoxidilMax but want a faster shipping option.

The conversation discusses the potential of PP405 as a hair loss treatment, with some users expressing skepticism and others hopeful about its development. There is also mention of other treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, and Pyrilutamide, with users debating the effectiveness and safety of self-experimentation versus waiting for clinical trial results.

A participant using Veradermics VDPHL01, an extended-release oral minoxidil, experienced significant hair regrowth from Norwood 6 to Norwood 3V without side effects. They plan to use dutasteride after the treatment to maintain results.

PP405 targets hair follicle stem cells differently than exercise-induced lactate, suggesting exercise alone may not replicate its benefits. Minoxidil and finasteride are recommended alongside exercise for hair regrowth, with additional suggestions like spicy food and infrared exposure.

PP405 shows promising results for hair density improvement, potentially outperforming Minoxidil in a shorter time. However, its public release is expected around 2029/2030, and its cost and availability remain uncertain.

PP405 is discussed as a potential alternative to finasteride, but its effectiveness and market availability are uncertain. Users share experiences with finasteride, minoxidil, and topical treatments, noting side effects and application techniques.

Concerns about the potential systemic effects and safety of PP405 for hair loss, with discussions on its comparison to existing treatments like finasteride and minoxidil. Users express skepticism about untested research chemicals and emphasize the importance of clinical trials to ensure safety and efficacy.

An 18-year-old is using a high-dose treatment for hair loss, including 2.5 mg dutasteride, topical minoxidil, and injectable GHK-Cu, despite minimal hair loss. Many users suggest reducing the dutasteride dose due to potential side effects and recommend starting with finasteride instead.

A gel of keratin microspheres promotes hair follicle growth, showing similar effectiveness to minoxidil in mice. The treatment activates hair growth pathways and reduces inflammation, with potential applications in drug delivery for hair-related disorders.

Pelage Pharmaceuticals received $120 million in Series B funding for hair loss treatment development. The conversation expresses excitement and anticipation for the release and effectiveness of the treatment.

PP405 shows potential for hair growth by increasing terminal hair and converting vellus hairs, but results are modest and more waiting is needed. It complements existing treatments like minoxidil and finasteride, but won't replace them.