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The conversation discusses two methods for making topical finasteride: using ethanol and propylene glycol or mixing it with topical minoxidil. The focus is on solubility and absorption, with a suggestion to crush pills finely and possibly mix with minoxidil at a slightly elevated temperature.

People are discussing their reactions if PP405 fails in phase 3 trials, with some expressing skepticism and others holding onto hope for future treatments like GT20029 and Breezula. Many mention continuing with existing treatments like minoxidil and finasteride, while others express disappointment and consider alternative solutions.

User tried DIY Dutasteride Mesotherapy for hair loss due to unsatisfactory Finasteride results. Used mesotherapy injection gun and liquid dutasteride for better results and fewer side effects.

People are discussing early results of the grey market hair loss treatment PP405. They mention previous attempts with jxl069 and interest in PP30.

Breezula (clascoterone) initially performed better than finasteride for hair loss but then effectiveness decreased almost back to baseline after 6 months, raising questions about its strength.

A user created a tracker for hair loss treatments in clinical development, including compounds like Dermaliq, RU58841, and Pyrilutamide. The tracker updates with new information and allows filtering by conditions like androgenetic alopecia (AGA) and alopecia areata (AA).

The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, including scalp massage, and the importance of blocking DHT for hair loss management. The user shares blood test results, which appear normal, and seeks advice on effective tests and treatments, expressing a preference for natural methods over medication.

The user is concerned about high DHT levels despite using finasteride and dutasteride for hair loss, suggesting these treatments may not be effective. They plan to consult an endocrinologist and consider other antiandrogens, acknowledging potential side effects.

RU-58841 does not dissolve well in common Minoxidil solutions due to water content, requiring a 70/30 ethanol/propylene glycol mix. Users report using separate solutions for RU-58841 and finasteride/Minoxidil for better results.

Discussion on hair loss treatments, focusing on Breezula, with mentions of Minoxidil, finasteride, RU58841, Pyrilutamide, GT20029, and PP405. Breezula's effectiveness is uncertain, with some trials showing minimal regrowth.

PP405 cannot restore extracted hair follicles after a transplant as they are removed, not dormant. Combining verteporphin with wounding and PP405 is suggested but not confirmed effective.

PP405 and ABS-201 are promising treatments for male pattern baldness. PP405 shows rapid hair growth in human trials, while ABS-201 shows significant regrowth in animal studies but is still in early human trials.

The user shared their experience with CB-03-01 (Breezula/Clascoterone) for hair loss, noting reduced shedding and improved hair appearance but experiencing significant sleep disturbances and low energy due to HPA axis suppression. They decided to stop using it due to these side effects and are waiting for GT20029 as an alternative.

Be cautious when sourcing PP405 or its analogs from third-party suppliers due to potential safety risks and lack of regulatory approval. The conversation highlights concerns about counterfeit products and the absence of reliable testing, making it risky to use such treatments.

The user is using a topical solution containing 1% finasteride and 5% minoxidil for hair loss, with water, glycerin, and PEG-40 hydrogenated castor oil as carrier agents. They are questioning if these ingredients are effective carriers after using the solution for three months.

PP405 is a new hair loss treatment advancing quickly in trials, generating excitement and skepticism about its effectiveness and marketing claims. Some see it as a potential alternative to minoxidil and finasteride, but concerns about long-term effects and the need for DHT blockers persist.

Alternating Dutasteride with pumpkin seed oil may protect the spleen from damage caused by Dutasteride. Pumpkin seed oil's antioxidants help counteract oxidative stress and immune suppression.

Topical finasteride (P-3074) can inhibit scalp DHT by up to 70%, with some users experiencing systemic absorption similar to oral use. Users discuss varying application frequencies and concentrations, with some noticing side effects when overused.

Balancing estradiol (e2) levels may alleviate post-finasteride syndrome (PFS) symptoms. Hormone tests, including testosterone and e2, are recommended for those experiencing PFS.

The conversation discusses using a Hydra Pen to inject topical finasteride and Minoxidil for hair loss treatment. A user reports no side effects after one week of use and plans to share results in two months.

The conversation discusses the possibility of creating liposomal topical finasteride at home or at a local pharmacy, questioning if it is an expensive or proprietary technology. It also mentions making topical finasteride using alcohol and propylene glycol.

The conversation is about finding a safe carrier for topical antiandrogens like finasteride, kx-826, RU58841, and dutasteride to minimize systemic absorption and side effects. The user experiences side effects from these treatments and is seeking advice on carriers that reduce these effects.

RU58841 can be absorbed systemically after topical application, but the study did not find immediate hormonal disruption. The study highlights the need for more research on long-term safety and effects of RU58841, as well as the importance of quality control in products from the grey market.

The conversation discusses using very low dose topical finasteride to achieve specific serum DHT reduction percentages. It concludes that finasteride dosage increases linearly between 5-30% DHT reduction but requires exponential increases for reductions up to 70%.

The conversation discusses the availability and legitimacy of a hair loss treatment called PP405-3HP. Users express skepticism about its release and reference patent information.

Pelage Pharmaceutical raised $120 million to continue research on PP405, a promising hair loss treatment that showed a 20% increase in hair density in 31% of men during a Phase 2a trial. The treatment was well-tolerated, with no systemic absorption, and Phase 3 trials are planned for 2026.

Topical finasteride concentrations are likely much higher than necessary for effective follicular DHT suppression, with current standards being 100-1000 times above the theoretical minimum. Lower concentrations (0.001-0.0025%) might still work locally while minimizing systemic exposure.

Concerns about the integrity of Dr. Melissa Toyos' marketing for Verteporfin treatment, suggesting photos may be digitally altered. Users express skepticism about the treatment's promotion and results.

The conversation discusses verteporfin as a potential treatment for hair regeneration, which could lead to unlimited hair transplants by healing the donor area. Some users are considering using verteporfin now, while others are hopeful it will be available for future hair transplants.

The FDA will now require only one clinical trial for drug approval, potentially speeding up the release of hair loss treatments like PP405. Pelage is expected to present full results of PP405 Phase 2a trials and move to Phase III in mid-2026.