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RU58841 caused severe side effects like heart palpitations and shortness of breath, leading the user to stop using it. Minoxidil and finasteride were effective without side effects, while RU58841's safety and effectiveness remain uncertain.

Oral minoxidil may cause dry skin and dark eye bags but doesn't significantly age the skin. Topical minoxidil is toxic to cats, and some users prefer finasteride.

The conversation discusses a new model for understanding androgenetic alopecia (AGA), linking it to dietary and lifestyle factors similar to PCOS, and highlighting the role of DHT, vascular damage, and inflammation. Treatments mentioned include Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.

Regrowing hairline without the use of Minoxidil or Finasteride, and instead using mechanical stimulation such as Derma Roller, Nizoral, Zinc Pyrithione, Scalp Massage, Scalp Exercise, Fish Oil and other topical solutions. It is cautioned that there are risks associated with not using medically-prescribed treatments, but it is suggested to consider mechanical stimulation in addition to those prescribed treatments.

After 4 months of using topical finasteride and minoxidil, blood tests showed increased E2, Test, and Prolactine levels. The user is concerned about potential side effects like gyno and is seeking advice on managing these values.

The user has been on finasteride for over a year and switched from topical to oral minoxidil five months ago, but is unsure if the current shedding and small hairs are signs of improvement or worsening. They are seeking advice on whether to wait longer or switch treatments.

Topical finasteride results in plasma levels 100 times lower than oral finasteride, potentially reducing systemic side effects. Users report similar efficacy with fewer side effects, suggesting a preference for topical application.

Oral minoxidil may deplete collagen, potentially causing skin aging. Users discuss whether taking collagen supplements can counteract this effect.

The conversation discusses using a microneedling device on the face after using it on the scalp, with suggestions to use a depth of 0.2mm for facial treatments. Caution and proper sterilization are advised due to the sensitivity of facial skin.

The user has been using 5% minoxidil once daily and microneedling with a 1.5 mm dermaroller weekly for three months, considering increasing minoxidil usage but avoiding finasteride due to libido concerns. Another person suggests considering other treatments like RU58841, alfatradiol, topical finasteride, clascoterone, or saw palmetto since not using a DHT blocker could be less effective.

The conversation discusses using B6 and Zinc to inhibit 5ar activity, similar to Fin and Dut. Minoxidil is mentioned as a supplementary treatment.

The conversation discusses concerns about starting finasteride with low testosterone levels, with one person suggesting finasteride might increase testosterone and decrease DHT, and another advising to pay attention to thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH) levels.

A user who has been using Pyrilutamide for 5 months with no results, and other users suggesting they switch to RU58841 or stick to their treatment plan for at least one year.

Whether taking finasteride and dutasteride can cause penile shrinkage, with long-term users providing their personal experiences.

White rice may lower DHT and potentially cause symptoms similar to post-finasteride syndrome. The user experienced muscle wasting, depression, and other symptoms after consuming large amounts of white rice.

The user stopped using finasteride and RU58841 and is considering CB-03-01 for androgenic alopecia but is concerned about the cost and effectiveness, especially at a lower dose than in clinical trials. They are also using minoxidil, micro-needling, and nizoral shampoo but are unsure about the correct application method for CB-03-01.

Minoxidil may improve or worsen skin quality, with topical forms causing dryness and wrinkles, possibly due to alcohol content, while oral forms have fewer side effects. Some users consider using tretinoin to mitigate negative effects.

Finasteride may seem less effective over time due to increased DHT sensitivity or aging, but it still suppresses DHT. Switching to dutasteride offers stronger DHT suppression but may increase estrogen levels.

Finasteride increased libido for some users, with effects normalizing after a few weeks to months. Other treatments mentioned include Dutasteride and Minoxidil.

A user received Kintor’s KX-826/Pyrilutamide and shared initial impressions, noting concerns about the product's labeling and marketing. Other users discussed the legitimacy of the product, its effectiveness, and compared it to other treatments like Minoxidil and Finasteride.

Biotin is being misleadingly marketed as a primary treatment for androgenic alopecia, overshadowing more effective treatments like finasteride and minoxidil. There is a call for increased awareness and accountability to prevent misinformation.

A user shared a beard growth protocol involving hydration toner, azelaic acid, tretinoin, moisturizer, 5% topical minoxidil, and SPF 30+ sunscreen. The regimen spans a year to a year and a half, with specific application schedules for different phases.

A user on finasteride for 8 months shared bloodwork results showing increased testosterone and estradiol levels, with concerns about high LH. Responses advised monitoring for symptoms but noted levels are within reference ranges.

Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) impacts various skin conditions, including Androgenetic alopecia and seborrheic dermatitis, by causing overactivity in sebaceous glands. Topical medications Tacrolimus and Clobetasol can reduce these inflammatory conditions, and treatments like RU58841, Minoxidil, and Finasteride may also be beneficial.

Minoxidil users report dark circles and eye bags. Solutions include water pills, caffeine serum, retinol, and collagen peptides.

Topical Finasteride doesn't directly reduce 5ar enzyme on scalp and has the same mechanism as oral, needing to go through the liver. Users debate the accuracy of this information and discuss various studies and experiences.

A study that outlines the full model for androgenic alopecia (AGA) which links DHT to cellular senescence in dermal papilla cells, and suggests black chokeberry as a source of cyanidin 3-O-arabinoside polyphenol with potential anti-oxidant properties that could reverse this process. The post encourages reaching out to experts in anti-aging and longevity to research treatments involving the polyphenol.

. This user experienced positive results from using a combination of minoxidil and finasteride, with no reported side effects after two months. Others have also shared their experiences with both short-term and long-term use of finasteride.

Pyrilutamide, a nonsteroidal antiandrogen drug under development for the potential treatment of androgenic alopecia. The conversation discusses its binding affinity to the androgen receptor and the timeline for possible availability after trials are completed in the United States and China.

The conversation discusses natural ways to reduce cortisol, such as avoiding caffeine, getting proper sleep, syncing with the sun, walking in nature, breathing exercises, increasing calories, and not doing keto. Magnesium supplements are recommended for stress reduction.