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The conversation discusses the effectiveness of finasteride and dutasteride in treating hair loss, emphasizing that significant results often take 12-18 months or more. Dutasteride is generally considered superior, with similar or fewer side effects than finasteride, but patience is required for noticeable improvement.

RU58841 is discussed as a topical anti-androgen for hair loss, but its effectiveness and safety are not well-documented, leading to mixed opinions and experiences among users. Some combine it with finasteride, but concerns about side effects and lack of FDA approval limit its popularity.

HMI-115, a newly discovered hair loss treatment that could potentially be effective for those with diffuse thinning and telogen effluvium. It is based on prolactin receptor antagonist signaling and has already undergone Phase I trials in women, with potential commercialization by 2027.

User TopBack56 and friends tried pyrilutamide (KX-826) for hair loss without experiencing negative side effects. They observed fine vellus hairs but no thick hair growth yet, and plan to add GT20029 to their regime after safety trials.

The conversation discusses the conflicting information about Zinc's effect on DHT and its role in hair loss. It mentions that Zinc can act as a 5AR inhibitor at high doses but may increase DHT if taken to correct a deficiency, and highlights the importance of nutritional balance for hair health.

A user shared that while finasteride improved their hair, it didn't solve all their insecurities, suggesting that self-acceptance is key. Others in the conversation expressed varying opinions, with some feeling that finasteride significantly boosted their confidence and quality of life, while others acknowledged it as a solution to hair loss but not a cure-all for other personal issues.

The conversation discusses the potential benefits of sublingual minoxidil for hair loss treatment. It suggests that sublingual minoxidil, which bypasses the liver, may have fewer side effects, greater bioavailability, and could be more effective than oral minoxidil.

The phase 3 trial results for Pyrilutamide showed no significant difference from the control treatment in increasing hair count, leading to the company halting its development. Users discussed their disappointment and skepticism about hair loss treatments, with some mentioning other treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.

The conversation discusses HMI-115, a potential cure for hair loss. Users share mixed opinions, with some expressing skepticism and others sharing anecdotal evidence of its effectiveness, including photos of significant hair regrowth from a trial participant.

User "hemantch" shares 5 months progress using topical Fin, Min, topical Dut, and a laser cap for hair loss. Significant regrowth was noticed after 1 month, and the treatments worked well despite being bald for 10 years.

The conversation discusses microneedling techniques and the use of Minoxidil, copper peptides, EGF, FGF, ceramides, and hydration serums to enhance hair growth. It explores optimizing scalp conditions and the potential benefits of various compounds in conjunction with microneedling.

The GT20029 tincture, a topical androgen receptor degrader, showed significant hair growth and good safety in a China Phase II trial for male androgenetic alopecia (AGA), with the 1% dose twice weekly identified as optimal. The company plans to initiate Phase III trials in China and Phase II in the U.S., and the treatment also shows promise for acne.

The user tried Minoxidil without success, and Finasteride worked but caused sexual side effects even at a very low dose. They are seeking alternative treatments for hair loss as they cannot tolerate anti-androgens and are also in therapy for mental health.

A YouTuber named Kevin, also known as Rider_Of_Roach, who deleted his YouTube channel due to personal attacks and controversy surrounding his views on hair loss treatments. He advocated for FDA-approved treatments like finasteride and minoxidil but faced backlash from those who disagreed with him. The conversation also discusses his past trolling behavior and a lawsuit he filed against a website that published false information about him. Despite some disagreements, many viewers appreciated his research-based content and hope to see him return in the future.

A 48-year-old man has been using minoxidil for 15 years and considered finasteride but stopped due to potential side effects. He is concerned about his mental health and the impact of hair loss on self-image, and he encourages support among men experiencing hair loss.

Potential side effects of 5AR inhibitors like finasteride and dutasteride. Users debate risks, benefits, and personal experiences with these hair loss treatments.

The conversation discusses the theory that scalp fibrosis contributes to male pattern baldness (MPB) by increasing DHT concentration, and mentions treatments like Minoxidil. The user seeks opinions on the theory and the effectiveness of scalp massages.

New treatments for AGA are emerging, including pyrilutumide, gt0029, scube3, kx-826, and pp405. Verteporfin is mentioned as a promising option.

Creatine may increase scalp DHT without affecting serum DHT, potentially speeding up male pattern baldness (MPB) for those genetically prone. Treatments mentioned include Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.

The mechanism of Androgenic Alopecia and practical applications of treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, RU58841, dermarolling, scalp massages, anti-fungals, progesterone, estrogen, PPAR-γ activators, reducing oxidative stress, and scalp exercises. It explains why DHT is important in AA and how other factors might be involved such as hypoxia, increased DKK-1 expression, morphological changes to the scalp, skull growth during childhood/puberty, and blood flow.

A study that outlines the full model for androgenic alopecia (AGA) which links DHT to cellular senescence in dermal papilla cells, and suggests black chokeberry as a source of cyanidin 3-O-arabinoside polyphenol with potential anti-oxidant properties that could reverse this process. The post encourages reaching out to experts in anti-aging and longevity to research treatments involving the polyphenol.

The efficacy of degrading the androgen receptor through dermal application in DP cells, a delivery system for topical drugs that involves dissolving microneedles, and rosemary oil as an alternative anti-androgen.

Finasteride may seem less effective over time due to increased DHT sensitivity or aging, but it still suppresses DHT. Switching to dutasteride offers stronger DHT suppression but may increase estrogen levels.

Dutasteride takes 1-3 months to affect scalp DHT levels, not just a week. The prostate absorbs Dutasteride faster than the scalp due to different vascular networks and enzyme densities.

Tretinoin may enhance minoxidil's effectiveness for those not responding to minoxidil alone, but it could reduce efficacy for some who are already responding to minoxidil. Tretinoin requires careful use, including skin moisturizing and sun protection due to increased sensitivity.

The user is considering switching from finasteride to dutasteride for hair loss. They are unsure if GT20029 can regrow hair, particularly on the temples. Another user mentions that regrowth on finasteride can take up to 2 years.

A user shared their positive experience with hair regrowth after 3 months of using 6% Minoxidil and 0.3% Finasteride spray. They experienced temporary erectile dysfunction but it resolved, although morning erections are less frequent.

The conversation discusses the approval of Kintor Pharmaceutical's AR-PROTAC (GT20029) for clinical trials in China for acne and androgenic alopecia. One user expresses optimism about new treatments being developed and seeks clarification on how the new drug works, specifically if it temporarily degrades the AR protein to reduce DHT sensitivity in hair follicles.

Scalp tension potentially affecting hair loss, and potential treatments for male pattern baldness such as Minoxidil, Finasteride and RU58841. Evidence from a study was discussed which suggests that the cause of MPB lies within the follicle itself and is not dependent on its surrounding environment.

A user suggests that deeper microneedling with Verteporfin injections might help regrow hair in areas with scar tissue, alongside a DHT blocker. Another user explains that hair loss might be due to reduced Wnt/β-Catenin signaling and suggests that treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, and microneedling could potentially reverse it.