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Intense microneedling with heavy pressure and bleeding did not improve hair growth after 4 months. The user advises against this method, noting no benefits and potential harm, and mentions using minoxidil without success.

The conversation discusses skepticism about the effectiveness of scalp tension theory and scalp massagers for hair regrowth, contrasting it with treatments like finasteride and minoxidil, which have more user-reported results. Participants question the belief in scalp tension theory, suggesting it may be a marketing tactic, while others argue for a multifactorial approach to hair loss.

Minoxidil and finasteride are discussed for hair loss, with concerns about minoxidil's heart-related side effects. New treatments like PP405 are met with skepticism, often humorously noted as always being "five years away."

The conversation discusses the cost and insurance coverage of a comprehensive hormone and DHT blood panel for hair loss, with a focus on finasteride treatment. The user seeks a cheaper alternative to a $700 panel recommended in a video.

Oral minoxidil is considered unsafe due to severe side effects and requires close medical supervision, while oral finasteride is viewed as safe and effective. There is debate over the fear-mongering around finasteride and the downplaying of minoxidil's risks, with some users advocating for proper health screenings before use.