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The conversation discusses the effectiveness and safety of hair loss treatments, specifically RU58841 and Pyrilutimide (Pyril), with users sharing that Pyril was no more effective than a placebo and expressing concerns about the safety of RU58841 based on personal experiences and the lack of pharmaceutical interest.

The conversation humorously discusses a visit to the Everychem laboratory, with a focus on hair loss treatments like Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841. The tone is satirical.

The conversation discusses a hair loss treatment involving oral minoxidil, topical finasteride, and a custom topical formulation with minoxidil, cetirizine, finasteride, progesterone, and hydrocortisone. The user seeks advice on the effectiveness of these ingredients for diffuse thinning.

A user seeks a topical hair loss treatment without minoxidil, considering options like finasteride, dutasteride, caffeine, tretinoin, or prostaglandin analogues. Recommendations include products like Strut, Maximus, Zeuss, and custom formulas from compounding pharmacies.

Avoid layering thin or thinning hair, as it can make hair appear thinner and uneven. Proper framing and minimal layering can help maintain a fuller look, especially when using treatments like Minoxidil and Finasteride.

A user shared progress pictures showing improvement from NW 6 to NW 2 after four months of treatment. They are considering using exosomes to further reverse hair miniaturization.

Hair regrowth was achieved using minoxidil, nizoral, alfatrodial, and pyrilutamide after finasteride caused side effects. The user recommends this combination for those who can't tolerate 5AR inhibitors, stressing consistent use.

Dutasteride and high-dose Minoxidil are the primary treatments maintaining hair, with additional supplements and therapies like red light offering minimal extra benefit. The discussion criticizes promoting expensive hair care products when basic medications are doing most of the work.

PP405 and ABS-201 are promising treatments for male pattern baldness. PP405 shows rapid hair growth in human trials, while ABS-201 shows significant regrowth in animal studies but is still in early human trials.

The conversation is about adding Swisse Hair Nutrition for Men, which contains saw palmetto and various vitamins, to a Minoxidil and finasteride regimen to potentially enhance hair growth. The user is seeking feedback on the effectiveness of stacking these supplements with their current treatment.

The user, on testosterone replacement therapy, found finasteride and minoxidil ineffective for hair loss. They are trying a new topical gel with dutasteride, tretinoin, and a higher concentration of minoxidil, and plan to document the results.

The brain resists updating its perception of gradual appearance changes, like hair loss, due to its preference for stability and reliance on an internal model. This delay in perception can make changes feel sudden once the brain finally updates its model.

The conversation discusses using a low dose of topical finasteride to achieve hair benefits with minimal systemic exposure. Users share experiences and opinions on dosing, systemic buildup, and side effects of both topical and oral finasteride.

Finasteride and minoxidil treatments plateaued after 10 months, leading users to explore additional options like microneedling and low-level laser therapy (LLT) caps, though many are skeptical of the effectiveness and marketing of LLT devices like Kiierr. Users express frustration with the lack of clear recommendations from dermatologists and the prevalence of marketing hype over genuine reviews.

Shiseido's S-DSC hair regenerative treatment in Japan focuses on improving existing hair by thickening miniaturized follicles, not creating new ones. There is limited patient feedback and long-term data available.

Kintor announced Phase 3 results for pyrilutamide, a hair loss treatment, in China. The conversation is focused on this announcement and its implications for hair loss treatment.

A new hair cloning breakthrough suggests a potential cure for hair loss, though skepticism remains about its availability and cost. Users discuss the possibility of unlimited hair grafts for transplants and express hope for future developments.

The user experienced hair regrowth after starting finasteride in September 2025 and topical minoxidil in December 2025, despite setbacks from using tretinoin gel. Their current treatment includes dutasteride, finasteride, topical minoxidil, and dermastamping.

The user is considering another hair transplant or scalp micropigmentation (SMP) for a congenital bald spot, but previous transplants were less effective due to scar tissue. Suggestions include using hair fibers, changing hairstyles, or doing nothing, as the spot is not very noticeable.

The user shared their hair loss treatment progress using topical products like exosomes, fluridil, Kx826, and topical dutasteride, avoiding oral finasteride and dutasteride due to side effects. They found exosomes from Creative Biolabs most effective and also used topical probiotics, noting improvements without significant side effects.

Microneedling at 0.6mm depth every two weeks showed better hair growth results than using minoxidil alone. Using a derma pen is recommended over a roller to avoid scarring.

A 35-year-old male is experiencing diffuse thinning and is using finasteride, topical minoxidil, and dutasteride. He is considering a hair transplant but is advised to wait and continue with medications for now.

Pyrilutamide is being discussed as an alternative for those who can't use finasteride, but users report it may be ineffective at low concentrations. Some users are combining it with minoxidil, microneedling, and other treatments, but results vary.

The user is using oral and topical minoxidil, finasteride, dutasteride, and considering adding rosemary and pumpkin saw palmetto to their regimen. They report significant hair growth, especially with dutasteride, and are considering increasing their dose and adding RU58841.

The conversation is about finding a safe carrier for topical antiandrogens like finasteride, kx-826, RU58841, and dutasteride to minimize systemic absorption and side effects. The user experiences side effects from these treatments and is seeking advice on carriers that reduce these effects.

Oral hyaluronic acid is not beneficial for hair, as it gets broken down in the stomach and has no strong evidence supporting its effectiveness. The user is taking finasteride, dutasteride, and topical minoxidil for hair loss, but combining finasteride and dutasteride is considered redundant.

The user plans to use a combination of tretinoin, topical minoxidil, and topical finasteride for hair loss treatment. They seek advice on application order, timing, and tretinoin dosage.

Pyrilutamide phase 3 results showed little to no significant hair regrowth, but may be sufficient for maintaining current hair density. The user is unsure due to lack of recent discussions on pyrilutamide.

The user has scheduled a hair transplant after stabilizing hair loss with finasteride and minoxidil, considering additional dermarolling. They are advised to use 2500-3000 grafts conservatively for temple filling without lowering the hairline too much.

The user underwent a DHI hair transplant with 3,066 grafts at Hairtec in the Netherlands and is using finasteride and minoxidil to restore hair, particularly at the crown. They plan to adjust minoxidil dosage and consult with a dermatologist in September.