Hair loss is linked to cellular physiology and the IGF-1 to TGF-B1 ratio, not just androgen sensitivity. The theory lacks evidence, while finasteride and minoxidil are effective treatments.
The conversation discusses hair loss linked to BDNF-increasing nootropics like Semax and Lions Mane. Suggested topical treatments include capsaicin, beta-glucan, and ginseng to counteract TGF-B activation.
Balding scalps have more androgen receptors, leading to increased TGF-beta, which causes blood vessel loss and hair follicle miniaturization. Blocking androgen signaling and TGF-beta may help prevent hair loss.
David Barreto shared that a London-based research group is conducting a 12-month trial for a new nutraceutical treatment for pattern hair loss, designed with Dr. Carlos Puig. The trial aims to provide robust data, with results expected in 1-2 years, potentially representing a significant advancement since finasteride’s introduction in 1997.
Peptides like TB500, KPV, GHK-CU, and BPC-157 are overhyped for hair growth with limited proven effectiveness in humans. Combining peptides with delivery methods like iontophoresis and sonophoresis shows promise, but many claims remain unproven.
The conversation discusses using a multimodal approach to treat androgenic alopecia, including substances like gamma-linolenic acid, DHA, sulforaphane, melatonin, cetirizine, astaxanthin, fisetin, apigenin, curcumin, limonene, genistein, and berberine. Users also mention using ketoconazole, minoxidil, and low-level laser therapy (LLLT) as part of their hair loss treatment regimens.
The conversation discusses taurine supplements for hair growth, highlighting their potential to reduce DHT and improve hair health. A user comments that people often try alternatives to finasteride.
A 41-year-old male has been using a combination of treatments for hair regrowth, including finasteride, minoxidil, a laser cap, ketoconazole shampoo, and rosemary oil, with some progress noted. He is maintaining his current regimen in hopes of a future miracle drug while considering hair transplants and other treatments like dutasteride and copper peptides.
Blocking DHT is not a cure for hair loss; instead, altering how scalp follicles respond to DHT might be more effective. Current treatments like topical finasteride and minoxidil are temporary solutions, and future approaches may involve gene therapy and bioengineering to change follicle behavior.
Blocking DHT is not a complete solution for hair loss; instead, altering the scalp's response to DHT may be more effective. Topical finasteride and minoxidil are current treatments, but future approaches may involve bioengineering, gene therapy, and inflammation control.
Minoxidil alone is often insufficient for treating hair loss because it doesn't address the DHT-related cause. Combining it with finasteride, a DHT blocker, is generally more effective.
N-Acetyl-Cysteine (NAC) was found to improve hair parameters in men with early-onset androgenetic alopecia, showing increased terminal hair count and decreased vellus hair count, with good tolerability. NAC, used alone or with minoxidil, may help due to its antioxidant properties, though its effectiveness can vary among individuals.
The user is concerned about hair loss despite using oral finasteride, oral minoxidil, and topical minoxidil. They are seeking advice on additional blood tests to identify potential causes.
DHT is not the only cause of male pattern hair loss; genetic sensitivity, inflammation, and fibrosis also contribute. GHK-Cu, a copper peptide, is being explored as an alternative treatment to finasteride and minoxidil, showing potential in improving follicle health.
PP405 is being discussed as a potential hair loss treatment, possibly more effective than minoxidil. There are concerns about its effectiveness and product contamination, but some users report early signs of hair regrowth.
The conversation discusses whether finasteride's reduction of DHT and increase in scalp testosterone contribute to hair follicle miniaturization. Some participants argue testosterone does not cause miniaturization, while others suggest that even with reduced DHT, other androgens like testosterone may still contribute to hair loss.
DHT promotes beard growth but causes scalp hair loss due to inflammation and fibrosis. Treatments like finasteride and minoxidil help with hormonal signals and blood flow but don't address underlying inflammation.
Alternating Dutasteride with pumpkin seed oil may protect the spleen from damage caused by Dutasteride. Pumpkin seed oil's antioxidants help counteract oxidative stress and immune suppression.
Pelage is developing a topical hair follicle stem cell therapy, PP405, for non-scarring alopecias like androgenetic alopecia, with Phase III trials planned and a potential market launch by 2027. The treatment may not require continuous use after initial regrowth.
PP405 shows significantly better early-stage hair regrowth results compared to minoxidil and finasteride, with 31% of users experiencing over 20% density increase in 4–8 weeks. Minoxidil and finasteride show minimal or no visible regrowth in the same timeframe.
The conversation discusses using GFM Gel, a topical gel with polypeptides that mimic growth factors to promote hair regrowth and strengthen hair. It also mentions treatments like Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841 for hair loss.
IGFBP‐rP1 shows potential for treating androgenic alopecia by influencing hair cycle transitions. Increasing IGF-1 levels may have similar effects to Minoxidil and 5-AR inhibitors in reducing hair loss.
Microneedling is debated as a hair loss treatment, with some arguing it is ineffective and potentially harmful, while others claim it enhances absorption of treatments like minoxidil and can be effective when combined with other methods. Alternatives like tretinoin are suggested for better results without the risks associated with microneedling.
Resveratrol and fisetin, found in red wine and strawberries, may promote hair growth by affecting hair follicle cells. Users discuss various treatments, including natural remedies like saw palmetto and topical applications, with mixed opinions on their effectiveness compared to pharmaceuticals like finasteride.
The user experienced significant hair growth after adding ostrich oil and weekly microneedling to their existing treatment of topical dutasteride and minoxidil. They believe the combination of ostrich oil and microneedling contributed to the results, although some users suggest the increased microneedling frequency might be the main factor.
Hair loss may be influenced by mechanical tension and inflammation, with the hi-c5 protein amplifying androgen effects, leading to follicle miniaturization. Treatments like finasteride, minoxidil, and scalp massages are suggested to manage hair loss.
Amplifica's AMP-303 showed a modest increase in hair growth, but results were inconsistent and potentially misleading. Hyaluronic acid and osteopontin are being explored for hair growth, with varying effects on different hair types and conditions.
Copper peptides may help with hair thickness and health, but their effectiveness in reducing DHT is uncertain. Minoxidil is being used, but finasteride is not available due to legal restrictions; ketoconazole shampoo is recommended for managing Malassezia-related issues.