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The post and conversation are about the user's high testosterone levels and their worsening hair loss despite trying various treatments. They are considering using low doses of anti-androgens to lower their testosterone levels as a potential solution.

The conversation is about the role of testosterone in hair loss and the effectiveness of different treatments. The conclusion is that DHT is the main culprit for hair loss, and finasteride has been proven to work long-term in maintaining and regrowing hair. Testosterone may have a minor effect, but it is not the primary cause of hair loss.

Testosterone within the normal range does not significantly contribute to male pattern baldness (MPB); DHT is the main factor that can be controlled. Genetics play a crucial role in hair loss, and treatments like finasteride and dutasteride, which block DHT, can help despite potentially raising testosterone levels.

The conversation discusses the potential of long-chain unsaturated fatty acids, like oleic and linoleic acid, as an additional treatment for hair loss, which may inhibit the enzyme responsible for converting testosterone to DHT and promote hair growth. Users humorously suggest using oils topically and discuss other hair loss treatments, but the main focus is on the science behind fatty acids and their role in hair health.

The conversation discusses whether finasteride's reduction of DHT and increase in scalp testosterone contribute to hair follicle miniaturization. Some participants argue testosterone does not cause miniaturization, while others suggest that even with reduced DHT, other androgens like testosterone may still contribute to hair loss.

The conversation discusses the effectiveness of reducing DHT for hair loss treatment and explores alternative approaches like reducing androgen receptor sensitivity. Specific treatments mentioned include finasteride, dutasteride, pyrilutamide (KX-826), GT20029, and RU58841.

Factors that can cause hair loss other than DHT, such as inflammation and diet, and potential treatments like scalp massages, minoxidil, citrulline, stretches, meditation, iron sulfate/Vitamin C, Vitamin D, protein and Dutasteride.

Breezula (clascoterone) and Formula 82F (topical finasteride) are treatments for hair loss that block DHT differently; Breezula competes with DHT at the hormone receptor site without systemic effects, while 82F inhibits the enzyme that converts testosterone to DHT. Breezula may work for those who don't respond to finasteride and vice versa.

FCE 28260 (PNU 156765), an under-explored 5α-reductase inhibitor, showcases promising results in research by Giudici et al., outperforming well-known treatments like Finasteride in reducing the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Its superior efficacy, demonstrated through lower IC50 values in both natural and human recombinant enzyme studies, suggests it could offer more effective management of DHT-related conditions. Additionally, its lower molecular weight hints at better potential for topical application, potentially offering advantages in treating conditions such as androgenic alopecia. Despite its potential, it has not advanced in development, possibly due to financial limitations, leaving its therapeutic prospects and side effect profile largely unexplored.

The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, focusing on the use of topical minoxidil, microneedling, finasteride, and dutasteride, while debating the role of testosterone and DHT in hair loss. It also touches on the potential liver health impacts of these treatments and the genetic sensitivity of hair follicles to androgens.

The user has been using a strong combination of hair loss treatments for 16 months, including Finasteride, Minoxidil, Dutasteride, and RU-58841, but their hair loss has worsened. They're questioning whether their high testosterone levels or residual scalp DHT are causing further hair loss, with a reply suggesting that even small amounts of DHT can cause hair loss if one is sensitive to it.

The user shared their personal experience with hair loss, hormone imbalances, and treatments including testosterone boosters, natural estrogen blockers, and DHEA. They suggest that low-dose finasteride and natural hormone therapy could reduce hair loss with fewer side effects.

Natural vitamins like pumpkin seed oil, saw palmetto, and ecklonia cava are discussed for their potential to lower DHT levels. They may work similarly to finasteride but are significantly weaker.

The conversation discusses whether to use finasteride for hair loss, considering its role in inhibiting DHT and 5AR, which can affect brain function and mood. Some users report anxiety and depression from finasteride, while others do not experience these side effects and emphasize the importance of DHT for brain and prostate health.

A user experienced a significant drop in testosterone levels after taking finasteride, leading to side effects like low libido and muscle mass loss. Despite its effectiveness for hair, the user decided to stop finasteride due to its impact on hormones, preferring to be bald.

The user reported early stage diffuse hair thinning and increased DHT levels after 4 weeks on Finasteride and 8 weeks on Finasteride plus 4 weeks on Dutasteride, despite the medications being authentic and stored properly. They are considering increasing their Dutasteride dosage due to the lack of side effects and are unsure if the treatment is helping their hair.

A user experienced initial side effects from finasteride, including erectile dysfunction and emotional changes, but later noticed increased muscle mass and assertiveness. Hormonal tests showed elevated estrogen and prolactin levels, which slightly decreased over time; the user plans lifestyle changes to see if they help.

Experimenting with trestolone as a treatment for hair loss in an attempt to avoid DHT-related treatments such as finasteride and dutasteride, and discussing the potential effects of its receptor selectivity on the androgen receptors in the scalp.

The conversation humorously speculates on whether an elderly man's good hairline is due to finasteride, dutasteride, or genetics. It also discusses the role of DHT and genetics in hair loss.

Taking dutasteride daily at higher doses results in more effective DHT suppression compared to every other day dosing, due to its dose-dependent nature and long half-life. Even at lower doses, dutasteride is more effective than finasteride for hair loss.

Being overweight may increase finasteride side effects due to higher aromatase activity converting testosterone to estradiol. Maintaining a healthy weight could reduce these side effects.

A user on finasteride for 7+ months shared bloodwork results, questioning if high DHT levels and testosterone could affect cholesterol. Replies suggest consulting a doctor and question the high testosterone levels.

Hair loss theory involves 3alpha-hydroxysteroid reductase (3AHD) converting DHT to androstenol. Discussion explores potential treatments and encourages more research.

The user claims NoFap (abstaining from pornography, masturbation, and orgasm) helped stop their hair loss. Others argue that hair loss is primarily due to genetics and DHT, which can be managed with finasteride.

The conversation discusses whether creatine causes hair loss for those using finasteride or dutasteride, with some suggesting creatine might increase DHT or upregulate androgen receptors, potentially leading to hair loss. Others argue the evidence is not conclusive, citing limited studies and personal anecdotes, with some avoiding creatine as a precaution.

User had success with dutasteride for hair loss after finasteride didn't work. Some experienced increased cholesterol and debated its relation to DHT.

The conversation discusses the side effects of finasteride, including low libido and erectile dysfunction, and the possibility of these effects being permanent, known as post-finasteride syndrome (PFS). Some users report personal experiences with PFS and debate whether the condition is real, with varying opinions on the reversibility of side effects and the role of individual biology.

Creatine may increase scalp DHT without affecting serum DHT, potentially speeding up male pattern baldness (MPB) for those genetically prone. Treatments mentioned include Minoxidil, finasteride, and RU58841.

A potential new treatment for hair loss, Pyrilutamide, and the discussion of whether or not people should still be taking traditional treatments like Minoxidil and Finasteride with it.

User experienced gynecomastia from finasteride and found a solution using liposomal topical finasteride. This method minimizes side effects and is effective for hair loss treatment.