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The conversation discusses androgen receptor degraders for hair loss, highlighting their potential advantages over traditional AR blockers like RU58841 and pyrilutamide. Concerns about the safety and cost of these treatments are also mentioned.

RU58841, an anti-androgenic compound, showed early promise for treating alopecia but faced challenges after its patent in 1997. Despite advancing to Phase II trials, safety concerns and financial struggles led Aventis to abandon its development. Proskelia, which later merged into ProStrakan, couldn't prioritize the drug, leading to its eventual stagnation and failure to reach the market.

RU58841, a potential hair loss treatment, was not commercialized due to marketability issues and lack of long-term safety data. Concerns about its formulation and delivery methods further complicate its use.

Results for Amplifica's AMP-303 hair loss treatment study are expected late summer 2024. The study, fully enrolled in Q1 2024, focuses on safety and tolerability.

FOL-005 claims to be more effective than Minoxidil and Finasteride but lacks anti-DHT properties, leading to potential reduced efficacy over time. Concerns are raised about misleading marketing and the safety of alternative treatments like Pyrilutamide and Clascoterone.

PP405 is a new hair growth stimulant different from Minoxidil, currently in phase 2 trials. Users discuss its potential, safety concerns, and the long wait before it might be available.

A user is considering buying RU58841 powder from Aliexpress to mix with Minoxidil for hair loss treatment. Another user warns about the safety concerns of RU58841, especially from unreliable sources, and suggests trying finasteride, oral Minoxidil, and dutasteride first.

A user is considering using 70% isopropyl alcohol with glycerin as a carrier for topical finasteride for hair loss but is concerned about its safety compared to ethanol. They are unsure where to buy ethanol without toxic methanol.

The user is considering using 2.5mg of oral minoxidil daily and 5% topical minoxidil every other day on their hairline, in addition to their current regimen of 1mg finasteride and RU58841. They are seeking advice on the safety and effectiveness of this combination.

A user received a prescription for a topical solution with Minoxidil 7%, Finasteride 2%, and Tretinoin 0.01%, to be used twice daily for three months. They are concerned about the safety of these dosages compared to commonly recommended lower dosages.

The conversation is about the effectiveness of finasteride, oral minoxidil, and RU58841 for hair loss treatment. Opinions vary on improvement after 7 months of treatment, and there are concerns about the safety of using non-approved chemicals like RU58841.

The GT20029 tincture, a topical androgen receptor degrader, showed significant hair growth and good safety in a China Phase II trial for male androgenetic alopecia (AGA), with the 1% dose twice weekly identified as optimal. The company plans to initiate Phase III trials in China and Phase II in the U.S., and the treatment also shows promise for acne.

A user on finasteride for hair loss is considering topical dutasteride to further reduce scalp DHT and is using various other topicals as substitutes for minoxidil due to concerns about the safety of their cats and potential heart side effects from oral minoxidil. They are exploring whether a once-weekly application of topical dutasteride would be effective.

Tretinoin may help more minoxidil convert to its active form and could potentially increase its absorption, raising concerns about safety if too much enters the bloodstream. It's unclear if tretinoin affects finasteride absorption.

People are not using RU58841 for hair loss because it's not FDA approved, lacks long-term safety data, and is difficult to obtain and verify. They prefer FDA-approved treatments like minoxidil, finasteride, ketoconazole shampoo, and microneedling.

People discussed their experiences with anti-androgens for hair loss, mentioning side effects like chest pains with RU58841 and skepticism due to lack of safety data, while considering Fluridil as a potential addition to treatment. Some users expressed reluctance to use these chemicals.

The conversation discusses a user's three-month progress using topical finasteride once a day, 6% minoxidil at night, and weekly dermastamping at 1.25mm for hair loss. Commenters note the impressive results and discuss application methods and safety precautions for family members.

Some users of RU-58841 report cardiovascular symptoms like heart palpitations and chest tightness, which may be linked to its metabolites causing lung disease. The safety of RU-58841 is uncertain due to lack of long-term data and concerns about product purity, especially from gray market sources.

A user shared their experience with oral minoxidil and finasteride for hair loss, taking 7.5mg of minoxidil and experiencing excessive hair growth all over their body without major side effects. Some users suggested lower doses for safety, while others shared their own experiences with hair growth in different areas and side effects.

A user is considering using RU58841 to treat hair loss and asks if it can be effective for 4-5 years. Some suggest starting with a lower concentration and debate the safety of RU58841 compared to approved drugs like finasteride.

Topical finasteride remains active on the scalp for a certain period after application, and there is concern about the safety of touching the hair and transferring the medication to the fingers.

The conversation discusses switching from finasteride to dutasteride after many years to improve hair regrowth, with mixed experiences reported. One user has also used minoxidil and is hesitant to try RU58841 due to concerns about side effects and safety.

The conversation discusses improving a hair loss treatment stack without using Minoxidil. Microneedling is suggested, Alpecin is deemed ineffective, and there are concerns about the safety of Minoxidil compared to finasteride.

A user is considering microneedling to enhance absorption of a prescribed topical hair loss treatment containing Minoxidil, Dutasteride, and Latanoprost, while already taking oral Minoxidil and Dutasteride. They seek advice on the effectiveness and safety of combining these treatments, especially due to the cost and their desire to maximize results.

A recent publication suggests that the flavonoids eriocitrin and silymarin may be more effective than finasteride in binding to the enzyme responsible for hair loss. People in the conversation are skeptical about the effectiveness and safety of these flavonoids until tested on humans, and some discuss their personal experiences with other treatments.

The user experienced side effects from RU58841, including dry eyes and potential eyesight issues, and decided to stop using it. They confirmed the product's legitimacy but advised caution due to its experimental status and lack of safety data.

The conversation is about differing experiences with finasteride for hair loss, with some users reporting side effects and others not, and the debate over the drug's safety and effectiveness. Specific treatments mentioned include finasteride, dutasteride, and topical finasteride.

A 17-year-old experiencing hair loss due to hard water was advised by a dermatologist to use a treatment containing Minoxidil and vitamins. A respondent confirmed the treatment's safety but warned that discontinuing Minoxidil could worsen hair loss.

The user has been using Minoxidil and Spiro for hair loss treatment but reduced the Minoxidil dosage due to side effects, leading to increased hair loss. They are considering adding the Inkey List caffeine stimulating scalp treatment to their routine and are seeking advice on its safety and effectiveness when used with Minoxidil.

The trial for TDM-105795 has been completed, and it was in phase 2A. The discussion seeks input on the next phases, 2B or 3, based on safety and efficacy.