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The conversation is about finding effective hair loss treatments without using finasteride or dutasteride. Suggested treatments include topical minoxidil, oral minoxidil, microneedling, PRP, and RU58841.

Matt-3422 shared his hair loss treatment journey, starting with great results from Minoxidil and oral Finasteride, then switching to RU58841 and topical Finasteride due to worsening hair loss. He's experiencing scalp irritation and is unsure if he should continue with his current regimen, while others suggest scalp care and alternative treatments.

A 28 year old using a hair loss prevention protocol to restore thinning hair, which includes finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil, stemoxydine, alopecin, nizoral shampoo and microneedling; the user is now adding pyrilutamide solution to the regimen with the hope of improving their results. RU58841 was also ordered but not yet used.

The user seeks alternatives to Propylene Glycol (PG) for delivering topical finasteride due to scalp irritation. They consider using Propanediol 1,3 and ask for other suggestions.

The conversation is about starting finasteride for hair loss, with concerns about high free testosterone and potential side effects like gynecomastia. The user plans to address vitamin deficiencies before beginning the treatment.

JeremySoCa's DHT level was 29 ng/dl, considered low, and Estradiol was 26.1 pg/dl within the normal range. They are using topical finasteride for hair loss and had a thyroidectomy due to Graves' disease.

A user who started using minoxidil and finasteride topically, micro needling weekly, Nizoral twice per week, and switched to sulfate free shampoo and conditioner. The user reported that after 1 month and 1 week of this routine they noticed their hair was thicker and healthier, with less shedding and no more dandruff or itching during workouts.

The user has been using finasteride, minoxidil, dermaneedling, and keto shampoo with great results. They seek a propylene glycol-free, volume-boosting shampoo for thin and fine hair.

A user increased their dutasteride dosage from 0.5mg to 1mg daily, resulting in a rise in DHT levels from 148 pg/mL to 281 pg/mL, and is considering switching back to finasteride due to continued hair loss. Replies suggest retesting and emphasize the importance of bloodwork before starting treatments.

A user is considering starting finasteride for hair loss and shares their hormone levels, with others suggesting checking SHBG and discussing potential side effects. Some recommend starting with 0.5 mg finasteride, while others suggest considering dutasteride.

A 25-year-old male with normal hormone levels is considering starting finasteride and minoxidil for hair loss but is concerned about high estradiol levels and potential side effects. Responses vary, with some suggesting blood tests before starting treatment and others emphasizing individual tolerance and the importance of consulting a doctor.

After using finasteride and dutasteride for hair loss, a user's blood tests showed almost unchanged DHT levels and some out-of-range hormone levels. They experienced side effects when taking dutasteride daily and also take supplements that boost testosterone.

The conversation provides a guide on using finasteride for hair loss, suggesting to start with a quarter of a 1mg pill daily after ensuring estradiol levels are within a specific range, and potentially increasing the dose if no side effects occur. It also recommends supplements like DIM, Calcium d-glucarate, and Zinc to manage high estradiol levels and side effects from finasteride.

A user reported that after using a topical mix of finasteride and minoxidil, their DHT levels decreased, testosterone and estradiol levels lowered unexpectedly, and they are considering vitamin D3 supplements due to deficiency. They apply the mix 3-4 times a week and use minoxidil on other days. Another user commented that finasteride typically increases testosterone, not decreases it.

The conversation discusses using topical liposomal finasteride for hair loss, with concerns about high DHT levels. The user's DHT level is above the normal range, which may affect hair health.

The user has low testosterone and DHT levels and is considering taking finasteride for Norwood 2 hair loss with diffuse thinning. They are seeking advice on whether low DHT indicates high sensitivity to DHT in the scalp and opinions on their lab values.

A user shared their experience with Finasteride for hair loss, noting a significant reduction in DHT levels and a complete loss of libido without other side effects. Another user agreed, discussing the negative impact on sexual drive and criticizing the community's attitude towards discussing side effects.

A user shared their experience using topical finasteride for 6 months, showing a reduction in DHT levels but no visible improvement in hair loss. They are considering switching to oral finasteride for potentially better results.

User experienced feminizing side effects from finasteride and tried RU, alfatradiol, and finasteride without success. They are now considering treatments like Stemoxydine, Zix, Minoxidil, Dermarolling, Eucapil, and a hair transplant.

A user's plan to use Zix and topical finasteride (5AR inhibitors) for hair loss, followed by blood testing before/after. The user has suggested creating a fund to cover part of the cost of their blood tests. Replies to their post discuss the effectiveness of the treatments.

The user reported high testosterone and estradiol levels within range, but unexpectedly high DHT levels after using finasteride and dutasteride for hair loss. Another person suggested the dutasteride might be fake or a bad batch and recommended using the branded Avodart.

User experienced good results with topical finasteride, noting reduced DHT and increased testosterone. They plan to revert to a lower dosage after observing slight libido reduction.

The user is not seeing success with 0.025% topical finasteride for hair loss after four months and is experiencing less side effects compared to 1mg oral finasteride. Another user suggests that it might be too soon to see results and recommends trying it for a year before making a decision.

A user with low testosterone and mild gyno is considering finasteride for hair loss. Others suggest consulting an endocrinologist first and share experiences of finasteride not worsening gyno.

A user is concerned about taking 1mg/day of finasteride due to potential gynecomastia, given their blood results. They seek advice on how their hormone levels might be affected by blocking DHT.

The user "OP" uses a combination of topical minoxidil 5%, finasteride 0.025%, and caffeine to combat hair loss, with noticeable results over 5-6 months. Side effects include unwanted body hair growth and an itchy scalp, but no significant sexual side effects.

A user is experiencing facial bloating from low-dose topical finasteride due to high estradiol levels and is seeking advice on using DIM to manage this issue, including dosage and brand recommendations.

A 21-year-old male managed to control his hair loss using Nizoral, RU58841, and finasteride, but experienced increased scalp itchiness after starting creatine, which subsided upon stopping creatine. Users shared mixed experiences on whether creatine affects hair loss, with some reporting negative effects and others seeing no change or defending its benefits.

The user has been using finasteride for 6.5 years and oral minoxidil for 10 months, experiencing slight regrowth on the temples but still has a thin crown. They are considering trying RU58841 and a derma stamp/pen for further treatment.

Pyrilutamide, a potential hair loss treatment that has recently been released for sale, and is thought to have similar efficacy to Dutasteride without side effects. It was discussed in terms of its effectiveness compared to Finasteride, its use by females, and whether it can be safely mixed with RU58841.