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Some users of RU-58841 report cardiovascular symptoms like heart palpitations and chest tightness, which may be linked to its metabolites causing lung disease. The safety of RU-58841 is uncertain due to lack of long-term data and concerns about product purity, especially from gray market sources.

The original poster believes shaving his head made him more attractive to a specific group of women, despite being less attractive overall. The conversation includes various opinions on attractiveness, with some agreeing that being bald can work for certain men, while others suggest maintaining hair is generally more appealing.

The conversation discusses whether finasteride's reduction of DHT and increase in scalp testosterone contribute to hair follicle miniaturization. Some participants argue testosterone does not cause miniaturization, while others suggest that even with reduced DHT, other androgens like testosterone may still contribute to hair loss.

Microneedling does not prevent future hair transplants, but some surgeons report the skin becomes "harder" in treated areas. There is no clear evidence to confirm this effect.

The conversation discusses various treatments for hair loss, including finasteride, minoxidil, dutasteride, microneedling, and checking for nutrient deficiencies. Some users suggest adding hydrocortisone butyrate, low-dose progesterone, or tretinoin to treatment regimens, while others recommend cosmetic solutions like Toppik hair fibers or shaving the head.

A user on dutasteride and oral minoxidil for two years reports worsening hair loss and is seeking advice. Suggestions include consulting a professional for underlying causes, acknowledging that treatments don't work for everyone, and considering dosage adjustments or additional treatments.

The conversation discusses the potential of long-chain unsaturated fatty acids, like oleic and linoleic acid, as an additional treatment for hair loss, which may inhibit the enzyme responsible for converting testosterone to DHT and promote hair growth. Users humorously suggest using oils topically and discuss other hair loss treatments, but the main focus is on the science behind fatty acids and their role in hair health.

A 25-year-old experienced significant hair regrowth using 5% minoxidil for 9.5 months despite an initial shed and a second shedding phase lasting 3.5 months. They encourage others to persist with minoxidil treatment through shedding as regrowth can occur.

The user is using finasteride, minoxidil, and ketoconazole shampoo for hair loss and stopped derma stamping to prepare for a future hair transplant. They are considering adding tretinoin to their treatment.

A user's barber noticed significant improvement in their hair thickness after they started using 2.5mg Minoxidil since August 2023 and 1mg Finasteride daily since September 2023. The user has experienced some headaches when missing Minoxidil doses but has not noticed major side effects.

The conversation highlights the general public's lack of knowledge about hair loss, with various ineffective remedies suggested, such as not wearing hats or using hair fibers. The only effective treatments mentioned for male pattern baldness are medications like minoxidil and finasteride, and hair transplants.

The conversation discusses whether creatine causes hair loss for those using finasteride or dutasteride, with some suggesting creatine might increase DHT or upregulate androgen receptors, potentially leading to hair loss. Others argue the evidence is not conclusive, citing limited studies and personal anecdotes, with some avoiding creatine as a precaution.

The user successfully treated their hair loss using 1ml of minoxidil twice daily and dermarolling with a 1.5mm dermaroller once a week. They experienced noticeable results only after combining minoxidil with dermarolling, and they have not used finasteride.

The user has been treating hair loss for 2.5 years using finasteride, dutasteride, oral and topical minoxidil with tretinoin, and microneedling, but is experiencing shedding and is unsure if further improvement is possible. Another person shared a similar experience with no gains despite similar treatments.

A user shared a 4-month update on their hair regrowth progress using finasteride, minoxidil, a dermaroller, ketoconazole shampoo, multivitamins, and biotin, and received positive reactions and inquiries from others. They also mentioned lifestyle changes such as quitting creatine, alcohol, and smoking, which may have contributed to their success.

Minoxidil can regrow hair but doesn't address the underlying issue of DHT, leading to continued hair loss. Users discuss their experiences with finasteride and dutasteride, mentioning side effects, personal outcomes, and alternatives like microdosing topical finasteride.

The conversation suggests that people should consult a dermatologist to understand their type of hair loss before starting treatments like finasteride or dutasteride, especially if they have autoimmune issues or low DHT. Some participants believe in starting treatment like finasteride immediately if hair loss is due to DHT, while others recommend ruling out other causes and considering minoxidil first, especially for younger individuals.

The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, with users suggesting the use of finasteride daily, considering minoxidil for aggressive hair loss, and discussing the normalcy of shedding during treatment. Some users recommend adding Nizoral shampoo and switching to dutasteride for better results.

A user shared their one-year progress using finasteride and minoxidil for hair loss, showing significant improvement. They also mentioned using the medication inconsistently and considering changes to their shampoo routine.

The conversation discusses whether whey protein and creatine worsen hair loss. Some users report hair loss with creatine use, while others do not; opinions on whey protein's effects are mixed. Treatments mentioned include PRP, minoxidil, and finasteride.

Rosemary extract showed high inhibitory activity against DHT, similar to finasteride and dutasteride, but the conversation includes skepticism about its effectiveness in humans since the study was done on mice and rosemary oil is often considered ineffective based on personal experiences. Some suggest trying rosemary oil alongside other treatments, while others emphasize the difference between the extract used in the study and the oil.

People have been using finasteride for 10 to 20+ years to maintain their hairline, with many reporting success and no significant side effects. Some users have combined finasteride with minoxidil for better results, and a few have switched to dutasteride or added hair transplants when finasteride was less effective.

The phase 3 trial results for Pyrilutamide showed no significant difference from the control treatment in increasing hair count, leading to the company halting its development. Users discussed their disappointment and skepticism about hair loss treatments, with some mentioning other treatments like Minoxidil, Finasteride, and RU58841.

A user shared a nine-month hair regrowth progress using 5mg oral Minoxidil and 1.25mg oral Finasteride daily, with noticeable improvement and no side effects, despite a high-protein diet, occasional smoking, and regular exercise. They also mentioned using keto shampoo and having naturally increased body hair by about 10%.

People regret not starting hair loss treatments like Minoxidil and Finasteride earlier, as they've lost significant hair by waiting. Some experienced side effects like itchy nipples or increased libido, but overall, they wish they had acted sooner to prevent hair loss.

Natural remedies like rosemary oil, coconut oil, and onion juice are generally seen as less effective compared to medical treatments like finasteride, minoxidil, and microneedling. Some users believe natural oils can help, but modern medicine is often more reliable.

A 30-year-old female with PCOS and male pattern baldness is frustrated with her endocrinologist's recommendation of only Spironolactone and minoxidil, feeling that dutasteride, finasteride, and progesterone would be more effective. Other users suggest various online sources for treatments, warn against self-medicating due to potential risks, and recommend seeking a specialized endocrinologist or considering additional treatments like Inositol, Berberine, and dermaneedling.

The conversation discusses dissatisfaction with current hair loss treatments that mainly focus on DHT blockers like finasteride and dutasteride. Alternative treatments mentioned include RU58841, pyrilutamide, minoxidil, rosemary oil, and future possibilities like hair cloning.

A user has been using minoxidil for hair loss and is seeing improvement. Some suggest adding finasteride or dutasteride for better results, but the user is concerned about side effects.

A user reported hair thinning, started using finasteride, and experienced a significant initial hair shed followed by noticeable hair regrowth after 2 months. Some responders questioned the rapid progress, while another noted that finasteride typically increases hair density by 16% after 2 years.