Potential side effects of 5AR inhibitors like finasteride and dutasteride. Users debate risks, benefits, and personal experiences with these hair loss treatments.
A user's experience with using 5AR inhibitors (Finasteride and Dutasteride) in combination with Minoxidil foam and microneedling, which resulted in substantial improvements to their crown density and hairline, despite high systemic levels of testosterone and dihydrotestosterone.
Pyrilutamide is a selective AR antagonist with a high binding affinity, making it effective in competing with DHT for androgen receptors. The 1% concentration is more effective than the 0.5%, but the latter may suffice for mild hair loss; the drug is considered a good option for those avoiding 5AR blockers due to side effects.
The conversation discusses the potential for high doses of dutasteride to completely inhibit scalp DHT and speculates whether this could cure baldness when combined with a topical antiandrogen. Specific dosages mentioned are 0.5 mg reducing scalp DHT by 55% and 2.5 mg by about 79%.
Topical dutasteride is suggested as a low side-effect treatment for hair loss, with a proposed dose of 0.025% 1ml/day. It is considered better than finasteride due to its even inhibition of DHT isoforms and lower systemic absorption.
Switching from finasteride to dutasteride may be more effective for hair regrowth due to dutasteride's stronger enzyme inhibition, but combining both drugs could enhance results. Some users report better outcomes with dutasteride, while others recommend a gradual transition to prevent potential hair loss.
The user has been using minoxidil for hair loss and is considering trying a compounded topical treatment with 0.1% dutasteride, minoxidil, tretinoin, collagen, and silicon, as recommended by a trichologist. They learned that dutasteride might be more effective than finasteride and are seeking opinions on the use of topical dutasteride.
The conversation discusses the use of 5-alpha-reductase inhibitors like finasteride and dutasteride for hair loss in transgender women, particularly in relation to testosterone suppression. The original poster has been using dutasteride and is considering stopping it due to undetectable testosterone levels.
FCE 28260 (PNU 156765), an under-explored 5α-reductase inhibitor, showcases promising results in research by Giudici et al., outperforming well-known treatments like Finasteride in reducing the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Its superior efficacy, demonstrated through lower IC50 values in both natural and human recombinant enzyme studies, suggests it could offer more effective management of DHT-related conditions. Additionally, its lower molecular weight hints at better potential for topical application, potentially offering advantages in treating conditions such as androgenic alopecia. Despite its potential, it has not advanced in development, possibly due to financial limitations, leaving its therapeutic prospects and side effect profile largely unexplored.
Serum DHT is mostly inactive; sebum DHT is a better measure for hair loss. Users discuss using finasteride, dutasteride, and topical treatments like KX826 and RU58841 for better scalp DHT suppression.
The user experienced increased hair thinning after switching from finasteride and minoxidil to dutasteride, despite some users suggesting it might be a temporary shedding phase. The user is considering using RU58841 but is unsure about its safety.
The conversation discusses using zinc sulphate and azelaic acid to inhibit 5 alpha-reductase activity, which could potentially treat androgen-related skin conditions like hair loss. Combining these with vitamin B6 could enhance the effect, potentially offering an alternative to finasteride.
Experimenting with trestolone as a treatment for hair loss in an attempt to avoid DHT-related treatments such as finasteride and dutasteride, and discussing the potential effects of its receptor selectivity on the androgen receptors in the scalp.
A user experienced increased hair shedding and unchanged DHT levels after taking 0.25mg of finasteride for 47 days, leading them to increase the dose to 0.5mg. Others discussed varying experiences with finasteride, minoxidil, and the importance of measuring scalp DHT.
The conversation discusses whether dutasteride might cause less depression than finasteride for hair loss treatment, with some users suggesting it could due to different mechanisms of action or molecular size, while others express skepticism or share personal experiences with these medications.
The conversation discusses dissatisfaction with current hair loss treatments that mainly focus on DHT blockers like finasteride and dutasteride. Alternative treatments mentioned include RU58841, pyrilutamide, minoxidil, rosemary oil, and future possibilities like hair cloning.
The user tried dutasteride for hair loss for 2.5 years but experienced drastic thinning and receding hairline. They decided to switch back to finasteride, along with minoxidil, LLLT, and ketoconazole, due to dissatisfaction with dutasteride's results and side effects.
Dutasteride is safer than finasteride for long-term use, with fewer sexual side effects. Users experience better hair regrowth and fewer side effects with dutasteride.
The conversation discusses hair loss treatments, focusing on the use of topical minoxidil, microneedling, finasteride, and dutasteride, while debating the role of testosterone and DHT in hair loss. It also touches on the potential liver health impacts of these treatments and the genetic sensitivity of hair follicles to androgens.
A doctor advised against using finasteride or dutasteride during pregnancy. The user continues with oral and topical minoxidil, microneedling, tretinoin, Nizoral, and pyrilutamide.
The conversation discusses the use of creatine while on finasteride and/or dutasteride for hair loss. Opinions vary, with some users reporting no issues and others experiencing accelerated hair loss, suggesting effects are individual.
Person 1, with slow hair loss, might need less finasteride than Person 2, who is balding rapidly. The suggested doses are 0.25 mg finasteride three times a week for Person 1 and 1 mg daily for Person 2.
Clinical studies by Dr. Barghouthi and Dr. Bloxham indicate that Verteporfin, when used with FUE and FUT hair transplantation methods, shows promise in hair follicle regeneration and minimal scarring due to its ability to inhibit Yes-associated protein (YAP). Microneedling at depths of 3-3.5mm, combined with Verteporfin, could potentially reactivate dormant follicles, although the optimal dosage and application method are still under investigation. Concerns remain about the DHT sensitivity of regenerated follicles, highlighting the need for further research to optimize trauma levels and Verteporfin concentrations to achieve effective and scar-free hair regeneration.
The conversation discusses topical androgen receptor blockers for hair loss, mentioning Clascoterone, Pyrilutamide, GT20029, and RU58841. Ketoconazole's effectiveness and application methods are also debated.
The user is experiencing a second hair shedding phase and increased flaking and itching while using minoxidil 5% nightly and microneedling every two weeks, with needle length increasing over time. Other users suggest the hair loss may continue without the use of finasteride.
The conversation discusses whether finasteride's reduction of DHT and increase in scalp testosterone contribute to hair follicle miniaturization. Some participants argue testosterone does not cause miniaturization, while others suggest that even with reduced DHT, other androgens like testosterone may still contribute to hair loss.
Dutasteride promotes more hair regrowth than Minoxidil. Users discuss combining treatments for better results and share personal experiences with side effects.
A user shared their 9-month post-hair transplant results with 4600 grafts, using only Nourkin hair vitamins, Vitamin D, and B12, and expressed satisfaction. The replies debated the necessity of medications like finasteride and minoxidil for maintaining hair health.